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STRIKE ON A UKRAINIAN MILITARY STRIKE ON A UKRAINIAN MILITARY BASE THAT LEFT AT LEAST 35 DEAD AND NEARLY 135 INJURED. THE AIR STRIKE IN WESTERN UKRAINE IS PART OF THE ONSLAUGHT THE KREMLIN UNLEASHED AS IT TRIES TO SUBDUE THE EASTERN PORTION OF UKRAINE BY RELENTLESSLY SHELLING CIVILIAN HAVENS THERE AND ATTACKING EVACUATION CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. JOINING ME NOW, MSNBC NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST CLINT WATTS, DISTINGUISHED FELLOW AT THE FOREIGN POLICY RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND AUTHOR OF “MESSING WITH THE ENEMY.” CLINT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING TO “THE SUNDAY SHOW, ” AND HELPING THE VIEWERS UNDERSTAND THE LAY OF THE LAND.LITERALLY. WHAT’S GOING ON IN UKRAINE, THAT DEADLY AIR STRIKE TARGETING THE MILITARY BASE IN EASTERN UKRAINE WAS ABOUT 12 MILES FROM THE POLISH BORDER. TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT ATTACK. >> WELL, JONATHAN, I Envisage IT’S WHAT WE CAN EXPECT MORE OF, BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS KNOW AS LONG AS UKRAINIAN MILITARY AND HUMANITARIAN POPULATIONS, The civilians, CONTINUE TO BE RESUPPLIED, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEAT THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY. INCREASINGLY YOU’LL SEE THIS.PART BECAUSE OF WEST HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT THEIR SUPPORT FOR MATSWHAT’S GOING ON IN UKRAI BUT WILL PUSH RUSSIA TO TRY TO ATTACK THE SUPPLY LINES FROM THE POLISH BORDER INTO THE CENTER OF KYIV. THE WARFARE WE’VE SEEN RUSSIANS UNDERTAKING, PARTICULARLY IN MARCH PALL AND ALSO WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO IN KYIV, IT WILL NOT Direct WITH A SUSTAINED SUPPLY LINE FROM POLAND.I EXPECT YOU’LL SEE MORE ATTACKS FROM THE WEST IF THIS CONTINUES. >> DO YOU THINK THE RUSSIANS ARE TRYING TO PROVOKE THE WEST? TRYING TO PROVOKE NATO AND THE UNITED STATES BY LAUNCHING AN ATTACK LIKE THIS? >> I DON’T SEE IT AS A PROVOCATION, BUT PROBABLY TRYING TO ESTABLISH HOW FAR FORWARD NATO AND THE U.S. WILL GO IN TERMS OF HELPING UKRAINE. SO THEY’RE ALL ABOUT DETERMINING WHAT THE REDLINE IS TO MARCH RIGHT UP TO IT. I IMAGINE VLADIMIR PUTIN AND ALL OF HIS DEPUTIES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WILL NATO GET INTO THE FIGHT? HOW FAR CAN WE PUSH UP TO THAT POLISH BORDER.ALSO, THEY’RE ATTACKS HAVE NOT BEEN Especially ACTIVE. 12 MILES IN A Crusade OTHER JET AT 10,000 FEET OR ABOVE IS AN INCH OR TWO IN TERMS OF TARGETING. VERY SMALL AMOUNTS. I’M WORRIED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF MISSILES WERE TO DRIFT INTO POLAND, HOW NATO MIGHT RESPOND TO THAT AND HOW THEY ARE PREPARED, OR WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH MISSILING LANDING FURTHER WEST INTO NATO TERRITORY. >> AND PEOPLE FOCUSED ON THE CAPITAL OF KYIV AND RUSSIANS TRYING TO ENCIRCLE THAT CITY.THERE ARE REPORTS BELARUS COULD COMMIT TROOPS TO RUSSIA’S WAR ON UKRAINE. HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF THE ASSAULT ON KYIV? >> JONATHAN, STRAIGHT MAN POWER. LOOK AT RUSSIANS. NO ONE KNOWS WHAT KIND OF LOSSES THEY’VE TAKEN BUT IN THE NORTHERN CORRIDOR. TALKED ABOUT A CONVOY TWO WEEKS AGO. IT’S CLEARLY TRYING TO SKIRT AROUND TO THE WESTERN PART OF KYIV AND CUT IT OFF OF SUPPLY ROUTES OFF TO THE WEST. THEY NEED MORE MAN POWER TO TAKE A CITY LIKE KYIV. A LARGE POPULATION CENTER AND THEY ARE TAKING INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF CASUALTIES AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR REINFORCEMENTS. BACK HOME INSIDE RUSSIA THE ONLY WAY TO HIDE THE COMBAT OCCURRING IN UKRAINE AND HOW POORLY THE RUSSIAN MILITARY HAS DONE TO SOME DEGREE IS NOT HAVE TO CALL UP MORE TROOPS. ONLY WAY TO AVOID THAT, LEAN ON ALLIES LIE BELARUS. RUSSIANLESS TRY TO LEAN ON THEM TO BRING IN MORE TROOPS. ALSO SEEING CALLS FOR FIGHTERS THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE EAST.PARTICULARLY SYRIA AND COUNTRIES THAT RUSSIA HAS A STRONG ALLIANCE WITH. IT WILL BECOME A MAN POWER ISSUE OVER TIME, JUST SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO GRIND TOWARDS KYIV. >> TALK ABOUT MAN POWER, ADVANCE ADVANCING FROM KYIV IN THE NORTH AND MARIUPOL IN THE SOUTH. WILL THE RUSSIANS BE SUCCESSFUL, CONSIDERING AS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT, IT’S BEEN A BRIND. THERE’S BEEN BIG RESISTANCE AMONG UKRAINIANS ON THE RUSSIANS OVER THE LAST 18 Eras .>> SO IF YOU Realise THE CITIES THERE YOU HAVE KHARKIV DOWN TO MARIUPOL AND TO DNIPRO, SITS RIGHT ON THE DNIPRO RIVER THASHS CITY, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE EASTERN HALF OF UKRAINE. LOOKS LIKE TWO AXES OF ADVANCE TO SEE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH TRYING TO LINK UP AND ESSENTIALLY CUT OFF THE TOWNS CLOSER TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER. THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR THEM. I Suppose THAT’S WHERE THAT QUESTION ABOUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS COMES IN. SOME OF THOSE TOWNS, RUSSIAN BORDER, STIFF RESISTANCE FROM UKRAINIANS, SLOWLY CUT OFF. THE SECOND QUESTION IS, CAN THE RUSSIANS SUSTAIN THOSE TWO AXES AND ACTUALLY DO LOGISTICAL RESUPPLY OVER AN ENDIRING BASIS.I’M NOT CONVINCES THEY CAN. I Envisage TIME WILL TELL IN THE NEXT ONE, TWO, AND THREE Weeks WHETHER THEY WERE STAIN THOSE AND SEAL OFF THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY. I’M WORRIED FOR UKRAINIANS IN THOSE CITIES CLOSER TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER. VERY TOUGH FOR THEM. NOT A Lot OF WAYS TO RESUPPLY AND SLOWLY OVER TIME THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT OTHER WAYS TO KEEP UP THE RESISTANCE, AND I’M SURE THEY’RE Conjecture THROUGH THOSE THINGS, BUT IT’S VERY DIFFICULT TO HELP THEM, THE CLOSER THEY ARE TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER. >> TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. I WAS Get TO ASK YOU ABOUT POTENTIAL OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS BEING USED. I Envisage YOU SAID THAT TALK OF THIS, OR THREATS OF THIS, USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS, WOULD BE ON TOWNS IN THAT EASTERN PORTION OF UKRAINE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT RIVER, THAT Ranges THE LENGTH OF UKRAINE.DID I GET THAT RIGHT? >> YEAH. THAT’S RIGHT, JONATHAN. SO THE RUSSIANS STATEMENTS WERE FALSE FLAG STATEMENTS SAYING UKRAINIAN USE CHEMICAL WEAPONS OR DETTONITED THEM. ONE Situate, OUTSIDE KYIV, BECAUSE THEY MET STIFF RESISTANCE GOING FROM DARK RED TO A MIX OF RED AND PINK. THAT CORERIDOR HAS A Mas OF UKRAINIAN RESISTANCE AND BYPASSES A LOT OF RUSSIANS CORRIDORS. THE RUSSIANS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR TELLING ON THEMSELVES. CHEMICAL WEAPONS USED ON POPULATION CENTERS THAT COULD NOT BE BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL. FROM A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A TOWN BUT NOT BOMB EVERY SINGLE BLOCK OF THE TOWN AND DESTROY IT OR LEVEL IT, CHEMICAL WEAPONS ALLOW ESSENTIALLY THE DEATH OF ALL CIVILIANS INSIDE THAT LOCATION, VERY HORRIBLE DEATH BUT THE STRUCTURE AND THE CITY REMAINS INTACT AND CAN BE RETAKEN OVER TIME.THAT’S WHAT I’M WORRIED ABOUT, THE CLOSER THE RUSSIAN BORDER TO STIFFER RESISTANCE IN THE CITY, WHAT WOULD RUSSIANS HAVE TO DO WITHOUT A GRINDING CHEMICAL WARFARE ..
