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>> Adrienne: – good evening, I’M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT IN LVIV, UKRAINE. ALL OF THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES IN ALL OF THOSE BLUE TENTS COULD SAVE SO MANY LIVES IF ONLY THEY COULD GET FURTHER EAST. THE PEOPLE OF KHARKIV AND MARIUPOL HIDING IN CRAWL SPACES WITHOUT FOOD, WATER, LIVING WITHOUT HEAT AS AN ARCTIC BLAST BEARS DOWN. IMAGINE SURVIVING RELENTLESS SHELLING, ONLY TO REALIZE THAT THE ELEMENTS COULD KILL YOU. THIS IS UKRAINE TWO Weeks INTO THE WAR. HERE’S WHAT’S HAPPENING TONIGHT.() DIPLOMATIC DEADLOCK.AND HOPE FOR HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS FADE AGAIN AS RUSSIA DENIES THAT IT’S EVEN ATTACKING UKRAINE. >> WE Miss TO COME BACK HOME. >> Adrienne: AND A STAGGERING 2.3 MILLION People FLEE. WE HEAR FROM SOME WHO STAYED, STUDENTS TRYING TO WIN THE CYBER WAR. AND IS THIS LEGAL? >> Actually NO. >> Andrew: I’M ANDREW CHANG. ALSO TONIGHT, COVID MEASURES ARE GOING AWAY BUT THE VIRUS IS NOT .>> WE’RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET. >> Andrew: HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE STILL HIGH AND A NEW SUB-VARIANT IS CIRCULATING. WHAT EXPERTS SAY THAT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS COULD LOOK LIKE. >>> AND ANOTHER CONTENDER, ABOUT TO SHAKE UP THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP RACE. ROSIE AND “AT ISSUE” ARE STANDING BY.() >>> THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” () >> Adrienne: ACCORDING TO UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS, SOME PEOPLE ARE ESCAPING FROM CITIES THROUGH HUMANITARIAN CORRIDORS, INCLUDING KYIV. BUT THERE COULD BE NO DOUBT THAT THIS WAR CONTINUES TO BE WAGED AGAINST SOLDIERS AND CIVILIANS. TWO Weeks IN AND ALREADY A SHOCKING 2.3 MILLION REFUGEES HAVE FLED. THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT SAYS 100,000 WHO ARE TRAPPED AND BLOCKADED IN CITIES HAVE ESCAPED THROUGH CORRIDORS IN JUST THE PAST 48 HOURS, BUT RUSSIA CONTINUES A PUNISHING OFFENSIVE.AROUND KYIV, SATELLITE PHOTOS SHOW THAT MASSIVE CONVOY HAS BEGUN TO BREAK UP AND ARRAY ITSELF AROUND THE CAPITAL SUBURBS. UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN DELEGATIONS MET FOR THE HIGHEST LEVEL TALKS YET, BUT CHRIS BROWN SHOWS US THAT THERE’S NO AGREEMENT ON STOPPING THE WAR OR EVEN THE FACTS OF THE WAR. >> Reporter: NO UKRAINIAN CITY MAY BE SUFFERING MORE FROM RUSSIA’S ATTACKS THAN MARIUPOL. UKRAINE’S MILITARY RELEASED APOCALYPTIC LOOKING AREA FLATTENED BY RUSSIAN BOMBS. SO MANY CIVILIANS MAY HAVE PERISHED THAT SOME OF THE DEAD ARE BEING BURIED TOGETHER IN A MASS GRAVE.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: SINCE RUSSIA CAN’T DEFEAT OUR ARMED FORCES ON THE BATTLEFIELD, THEY’RE TRYING TO TERRORIZE OUR CITIES, SAID A UKRAINIAN PRESIDENTIAL ADVISOR.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: WEDNESDAY A RUSSIAN BOMB OR BOMBS DEMOLISHED A CHILDREN’S AND MATERNITY HOSPITAL, KILLING THREE PEOPLE. YET, WHEN RUSSIA’S AND UKRAINE’S FOREIGN MINISTERS MET IN TURKEY, SERGEY LAVROV ABSURDLY DENIED THAT RUSSIA IS EVEN ATTACKING UKRAINE AND SUGGESTED THAT IMAGES LIKE THESE WERE FAKED.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: “ALL OF THE PREGNANT WOMEN, ALL OF THE NURSES HAD BEEN EXPELLED FROM THERE, ” HE SAID, “IT WAS A BASE FOR NAZI ELEMENTS.”( Speaking Foreign Language ).>> Reporter: THEY, THE RUSSIANS, LIE CONFIDENTLY, SAID PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY. Crusade CRIMES ARE NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT PROPAGANDISTS WHO COVER THEM UP. THE KREMLIN HAS MADE IT ILLEGAL TO REFER TO THIS WAR AS A WAR, AND IN IMAGES SUCH AS THESE OF ITS TROOPS IN ACTION HAVE BEEN RARE. UKRAINE, On the other hand, SHOWED THESE SCENES OF ITS SOLDIERS DRIVING A CAPTURED RUSSIAN TANK AND AMBUSHING A RUSSIAN CONVOY NEAR KYIV. IN LVIV, WHERE MANY UKRAINIANS HAVE FLED, THE RELIEF CENTRE OUTSIDE THE TRAIN STATION MAY BE JUST A LITTLE LESS FULL THESE DAYS, SUGGESTING THE FIRST WAVE OF REFUGEES COULD BE SLOWING, BUT EVEN WITH SO MUCH PAIN OF THEIR OWN, THE MARIUPOL HOSPITAL ATTACK HAS ENRAGED PEOPLE HERE .>> THEY SAY WE ARE NEO-NAZIS, BUT WE ARE NOT. I Conclude THEY ARE FASCISTS Truly, THAT’S WHAT I Guess. >> Reporter: IT WAS THE SAME ON THIS BUS HEADED TO WARSAW. HOW DOES SHE FEEL ABOUT WHAT THE RUSSIAN ARMY IS DOING TO HER CITY AND HER COUNTRY?( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> THIS IS FRUSTRATING, EVEN WORSE THAN FRUSTRATING. >> Reporter: DESPITE THE HEAVY LOSSES THAT UKRAINE HAS INFLICTED, RUSSIA’S MILITARY CONTINUES TO HAVE AN ADVANTAGE IN TROOPS AND WITH WEAPONS. THE VERDICT OF UKRAINE’S FOREIGN MINISTER AFTER HIS MEETING IS THAT RUSSIA WILL CONTINUE ATTACKING AND IS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT A CEASEFIRE.CHRIS BROWN, CBC NEWS, LVIV, UKRAINE. >> Adrienne: TONIGHT AS THE WAR CONTINUES TO RAGE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FACE BEING TRAPPED BY RUSSIA’S SIEGE TACTICS. THE RUSSIAN FORCES ARE CLOSING AROUND MULTIPLE CITIES. THE MAYOR OF THE NORTHERN CIT OF CHERNIHIV SAID THAT HIS CITY WAS SURROUNDED AND THE ELECTRICITY WAS DOWN AND WATER AND GAS RUNNING OUT, BUT AS CHRIS NOTED, IT’S MARIUPOL THAT HAS SUFFERED THE LONGEST. ITS HUMANITARIAN SITUATION IS BEYOND DIRE. RUSSIA HAS TURNED A DEVASTATING ARRAY OF WEAPONS ON THE CITY OF MORE THAN 400,000. THERE REMAINS NO SAFE PASSAGE OUT OF IT, AND A WARNING THAT A GLIMPSE INSIDE THE CITY INVOLVES SOME DISTURBING IMAGES. THIS IS MARIUPOL. THE FIRST CHALLENGE FOR PEOPLE HERE COMES FROM THE SKY. RUSSIA’S BOMBARDMENT RELENTLESS. >> MARIUPOL IS UNDER CONTINUOUS SHELLING FROM THE ARTILLERY AND BOMBING. EACH MINUTE, EACH SECOND. >> Adrienne: THE CRATER LEFT BY THIS BOMB BIG ENOUGH TO FIT A HOUSE IN. BLAST WAVES AND FIRE HAVE REDUCED STREETS TO DUST, RUBBLE AND RUIN. UNEXPLODED CLUSTER BOMBS HAVE TURNED SOME OF THOSE STREETS INTO MINEFIELDS. UKRAINE CLAIMS 1,300 CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE CITY.THAT’S HARD TO VERIFY, BUT THE BODIES LAY WHERE THEY DIED. THE WORK OF COLLECTING THEM CAN TEAR THROUGH THE SOUL LIKE SHRAPNEL. THE SECOND CHALLENGE — SUPPLY. Stores WERE ALL REPORTEDLY LOOTED DAYS AGO. A MEMBER OF THE RED CROSS IN THE CITY REPORTS PEOPLE ARE NOW FIGHTING EACH OTHER FOR FOOD. DRINKING WATER IS SCARCE, AND MANY ARE BOILING IT FROM STREAMS. BUT THE CITY’S GAS SUPPLY IS CUT OFF. FIREWOOD IS PRIZED FOR HEAT WHICH BRINGS US TO THE FINAL CHALLENGE. COMBINED WITH STARVATION AND SICKNESS — COLD CAN BE AN EFFICIENT KILLER. THE NIGHTTIME TEMPERATURES ARE NOW WELL BELOW FREEZING. NOW THOSE WHO HAVE MADE IT OUT OF UKRAINE ARE FLEEING TO NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES, STRAINING Resource AND SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES LIKE SLOVAKIA.DAVID COMMON LOOKS AT WHAT IT’S LIKE FOR THOSE REFUGEES. >> Reporter: CROSSING THE BORDER NOW MAY COME WITH SAFETY, BUT THERE IS STILL SORROW FOR EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE LEFT BEHIND. NEARLY ALL HERE ELDERLY, ALONG WITH MOTHERS AND THEIR CHILDREN, INCLUDING ANNA KHATUSHKA, DROPPED OFF BY HER HUSBAND MINUTES AGO AT THE BORDER, THEIR 2-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER CONFUSED THAT HE STAYED BEHIND. >> SHE WAS CRYING ALL THE TIME WHEN SHE SAW A MAN AND SHE KNEW THAT SHE WAS SAYING THAT’S MY DAD, THAT’S MY DAD. >> Reporter: AT LEAST 165,000 PEOPLE HAVE CROSSED INTO SLOVAKIA, OFTEN HUNGRY, COLD, AND SOMETIMES ALONE. PEOPLE OFTEN ARRIVE HERE WITH NO IDEA WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO GO NEXT.THEY DON’T NECESSARILY HAVE FAMILY ANYWHERE ELSE IN EUROPE, AND SLOVAKIA HAS A LIMITED CAPACITY TO ABSORB EVERYBODY. SO YOU’RE SEEING MAPS LIKE THIS, NOT STAYING AT THE BORDER BUT MOVING THEM OUT. AFTER FLEEING THE NEAR CONSTAN BOMBARDMENTS IN KHARKIV, IRA AND MASHA MANAGED TO MAKE IT OUT WITH THEIR KIDS.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: “YOU NEED TO SAVE THE CHILDREN, YOU JUST NEED TO TAKE THEM AND GO, ” SHE SAYS, “THAT’S IT.” THEY’RE PLANNING NOW TO GO TO VIENNA, THEY DON’T KNOW ANYONE THERE. EVERY PART OF THEIR LIFE IS IN UKRAINE BUT THEY CANNOT BE. >> IT Rends MY SOUL. >> Reporter: IT Rends MY SOUL, SHE SAYS. MANY END UP HERE WHERE TRAINS WILL TAKE THEM FURTHER TO ROOMS OFFERED BY STRANGERS WHO WANT TO HELP. TANYA IS HEADED TO WARSAW WHERE SHE KNOWS NO ONE, BUT THERE IS A SCHOOL FOR BLIND CHILDREN THERE. HER DAUGHTER, 10 -YEAR-OLD VERINICA, NEEDS THAT. TRAVEL ALONE IS SUCH A STRESS.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: “I JUST DON’T KNOW HOW TO GET THERE FROM HERE, ” SHE SAYS.FOR NEARLY EVERYONE WHO HAS MADE IT THIS FAR, THE JOURNEY IS NOT OVER. EXHAUSTING — BUT WHAT OTHER CHOICE DO THEY HAVE? DAVID COMMON, CBC NEWS, KOSICE, SLOVAKIA. >> Adrienne: AND THAT WORSENING REFUGEE CRISIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PRIME MINISTER SAW FIRSTHAND IN WARSAW TODAY. >> Andrew: THAT’S Liberty, ADRIENNE, JUSTIN TRUDEAU WRAPPED UP HIS EUROPEAN TOUR IN POLAND’S CAPITAL TODAY. THAT COUNTRY’S LEADER URGING CANADA TO ACCELERATE PLANS TO TAKE IN UKRAINIANS FLEEING THE WAR. POLAND CAN SOON BE OVERWHELMED BY REFUGEES. ALREADY ONE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE WITH MORE POURING IN BY THE HOUR. TRUDEAU HAS PROMISED MORE HELP, BUT WHAT POLAND WANTS IS A TIMELINE. TRAVIS DHANRAJ IS TRAVELLING WITH THE PRIME MINISTER. >> Reporter: ANOTHER TRAINLOAD ARRIVES AT WARSAW CENTRAL. HUNDREDS OF WEARY FACES PILE OUT INTO THE STATION. >> I Repute IN GOD, I Guess IN MY STRONG DAD, HE WILL Stand ALIVE .>> Reporter: 12 -YEAR-OLD OLIANA HAS ARRIVED FROM KHARKIV BUT IS DESPERATE TO RETURN. >> I Demand TO ASK PUTIN TO STOP THE WAR BECAUSE I WANT TO COME BACK HOME. >> Reporter: AT A REFUGEE CENTRE, JUSTIN TRUDEAU WITNESSED THE CRISIS UPCLOSE. THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER HELPED TO TRANSLATE. TRUDEAU DID OFFER MORE MONEY FOR AID ON THE LAST DAY OF HIS TRIP, $117 MILLION FOR NEW IMMIGRATION MEASURES. HE PROMISED TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS INCLUDING MAKING IT EASIER TO GET A VISA. POLAND’S PRESIDENT WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN QUICKLY. HE SAYS THAT FIVE MILLION REFUGEES COULD SOON BE In its own country. >> TRYING TO INTRODUCE SOME VERY, VERY SIMPLE PROCEDURES. >> Reporter: AS THE EXODUS CONTINUES, SO DOES THE BLOODSHED, AND WARNINGS AN DISPLAYS OF ECONOMIC SOLIDARITY AND ECONOMIC SANCTIONS THAT HAVE FAILED TO STOP THE INVASION. THE PRIME MINISTER DIDN’T OFFER ANY NEW OPTIONS BUT SAID — >> Justin Trudeau: HE’S GOING TO LOSE THIS WAR BECAUSE THE FEROCITY AND THE STRENGTH AND RESOLVE OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE DEFENDING THEIR TERRITORY IS INSPIRING US ALL, AND BECAUSE OF OUR RESOLVE AS FRIENDS AND ALLIES. >> Reporter: TRUDEAU MET WITH ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE FRIENDS ALSO IN WARSAW YESTERDAY — U.S. VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS. >> I KNOW THAT WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY IN TERMS OF OUR OUTRAGE. >> Reporter: THE U.S. AND CANAD AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES WERE ALREADY ALIGNED ON PUSHING BACK AGAINST RUSSIA, EVEN BEFORE THIS TRIP. BUT SO FAR IT SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT DIPLOMATIC PRESSURE WILL DO ANYTHING TO DISSUADE VLADIMIR PUTIN. TRAVIS DHANRAJ, CBC NEWS, WARSAW. >> Andrew: AND, ADRIENNE, THE PRIME MINISTER AND ALL CANADIANS WILL HEAR A DIRECT APPEAL FROM THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT NEXT WEEK. >> Adrienne: YEAH, THAT’S RIGHT. ZELENSKY IS SET TO MAKE A VIRTUAL ADDRESS TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. THAT’S ON TUESDAY. NOW TODAY BRITAIN IMPOSED SWEEPING SANCTIONS ON SEVEN RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS WHO HAVE TIES TO VLADIMIR PUTIN, INCLUDING THE JET-SETTING BILLIONAIRE ROMAN ABRAMOVICH, STRIPPING HIM OF HIS ACCESS TO HIS FORTUNE AND HIS LUXURY REAL ESTATE AND HIS BELOVED PREMIERE SOCCER CLUB.HERE’S DAVID COMMON. >> THE KINGS — >> Reporter: UNDER HIS OWNERSHIP, CHELSEA HAS REACHED THE HEIGHTS OF GLORY, BUT NOW ROMAN ABRAMOVICH IS FACING DISGRACE. BANNED FROM TRAVELLING TO THE UNITED KINGDOM, HIS ASSETS FROZEN, FOR BEING WHAT THE GOVERNMENT CALLED A KREMLIN CONNECTED OLIGARCH. >> I Judge THAT PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CAN SEE THAT PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THE PUTIN REGIME NEED TO BE SANCTIONED AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE DOING. >> Reporter: HE’S ONE OF SEVEN RUSSIANS SANCTIONED FOR THOSE LINKS, ALONG WITH IGOR SETCHIN, AN Petroleum Exec THAT THEY Announce PUTIN’S RIGHT-HAND MAN. >> MAYBE THE U.K. IS WAKING UP AND FEELING SHAME ABOUT ITS ROLE AS THE GLOBAL HUB FOR DIRTY MONEY. >> Reporter: LONDON IS SUCH A LUXURY PLAYGROUND FOR THE RUSSIAN SUPER RICH THAT IT’S BEEN NICKNAMED LONDON-GRAD, CITY WHERE A SOCCER TEAM IS THE ULTIMATE TOY. THE TEAM SHOPS ARE CLOSED HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THIS MEANS THAT CHELSEA CAN’T SELL NEW MERCHANDISE AND IT’S NOT ALLOWED TO SELL NEW TICKETS FOR HOME GAMES.EXISTING TICKETS WILL BE HONOURED AS THE GOVERNMENT HAS ISSUED SPECIAL LICENSES SO THAT THE GAMES CAN BE PLAYED. CHELSEA IS HIS MOST FAMOUS ASSET BUT ABRAMOVICH ALSO OWNS STEEL, INCLUDING 29% OF EVRAZ THAT EMPLOYS MORE THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN CANADA, WHERE HE HAS YET TO FACE SANCTIONS. EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AND WE ARE LOOKING CAREFULLY AT THE HOLDINGS OF OLIGARCHS IN CANADA >> Reporter: BUT IN WEST LONDON, THE HOPE IS FOOTBALL. ABRAMOVICH HAS BEEN TRYING TO SELL THE CLUB AND NOW HE CAN’T WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT APPROVAL AND WON’T BE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE MONEY IF HE DOES.CHELSEA CAN’T EVEN SIGN PLAYERS OR MAKE TRADES. >> IT’S “re going to be” DIFFICULT GOING FORWARD. >> IT’S DIFFERENT WITH CHELSEA AND DIFFERENT WITH ROMAN BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE HE LOVES THE CLUB. >> Reporter: ABRAMOVICH’S Money FUELLED CHELSEA’S GLORY, HIS CONNECTIONS MAY FUEL THEIR DOWNFALL. DAVID COCHRANE, CBC NEWS, LONDON. >> Adrienne: AND, ANDREW COMING UP FROM UKRAINE, A LOOK AT WHAT SOME STUDENTS HERE IN LVIV ARE DOING TO HELP THE WAR EFFORT. >> Andrew: ALL RIGHT, THANKS, ADRIENNE.IN THE MEANTIME WE’LL TURN NOW TO COVID-1 9 Growings HERE IN CANADA. BRITISH COLUMBIA IS BECOMING THE LATEST PROVINCE TO DROP ITS MASK MANDATE. >> I Demand TO ASSURE YOU THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND THAT WE ARE IN A PLACE TO DO THIS NOW. >> Andrew: SO AS OF TOMORROW, MASKS WILL NO LONGER BE REQUIRED IN INDOOR PUBLIC SPACES. FAITH GATHERINGS CAN RETURN T 100% CAPACITY. AND NEXT WEEK LONG-TERM CARE VISITATION RULES WILL BE EASED. B.C.’S PROOF OF VACCINATION CARD ALSO SET TO BE SCRAPPED APRIL 8TH. >>> NOW, AS THE PROVINCES MOVE AWAY FROM MANDATES AND RESTRICTIONS, IT CERTAINLY FEELS THAT CANADA IS RETURNING TO SOME SEMBLANCE OF PRE-PANDEMIC LIFE, BUT THERE’S A WARNING TONIGHT FROM EXPERTS WHO ARE TRACKING THE DATA. AS CHRISTINE BIRAK REPORTS, WHAT THEY’RE SEEING MAKES CLEAR THAT THE VIRUS IS NOT DONE WITH US YET. >> Reporter: THIS PANDEMIC CAN FEEL LIKE A NEVER-ENDING LOOP. MANY ARE WELCOMING THE LIFTING OF RESTRICTIONS, BUT EXPERTS NERVOUSLY POINT OUT — >> ALTHOUGH WE’RE ON THE DOWN SLOPE OF THIS WAVE, WE’RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET .>> Reporter: AND REPLACING PCR TESTING, RESEARCHERS CAN’T TRACK THE NUMBER OF INFECTIONS. SAMPLES CAN INDICATE WHETHER VIRUS LEVELS ARE RISING OR FALLING AND CURRENT DATA SUGGESTS THAT THE VIRUS IS STABILIZING AT VERY HIGH LEVELS. STILL, CANADIANS HAVE MORE PROTECTION THAN EVER BEFORE. >> THE COMBINATION OF VACCINE-INDUCED IMMUNITY AND INFECTION ACQUIRED IMMUNITY HAS RAISED OUR LEVELS OF IMMUNITY QUITE HIGH. >> Reporter: HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE COMING DOWN, BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE DOES SHOW THAT NEARLY 4,500 CANADIANS ARE NOW LYING IN HOSPITAL BEDS WITH COVID-1 9. THAT’S ALMOST AS HIGH OR HIGHER THAN THE PEAK OF EVERY OTHER WAVE FROM THIS PANDEMIC. >> WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF CASES THAT WE’RE STILL SEEING HOSPITALIZATIONS. WE’RE NOT GOING TO LET THAT GET IN THE WAY OF THE FACT THAT WE ALL WANT THIS OVER. AND THAT’S OBVIOUSLY A FAIRLY DANGEROUS POSITION FOR US TO BE IN .>> Reporter: ALREADY A MORE CONTAGIOUS SUB-VARIANT OF OMICRON CALLED BA2 IS SPREADING IN SEVERAL COUNTRIES, INCLUDING CANADA AND THE U.K. THE U.K. DROPPED MASKING AND MANY OTHER RESTRICTIONS OVER A Months before, AND NOW TESTING SHOWS COVID CASES ARE SPIKING, WHILE HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS ARE CREEPING UP. >> WE KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE U.K. HAVE HAD COVID, SO I — IF SORT IF THE VARIANT IS ABLE TO RISE AND CAUSE PROBLEMS AGAIN, THAT’S A WARNING SIGN FOR US .>> Reporter: AS Rules ARE LIFTING, THE HEALTH OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THAT THE MEASURES COULD RETURN IN THE FALL. NEW VARIANTS REMAIN A REAL THREAT AND WHILE VACCINATIONS AND OMICRON INFECTIONS ARE OFFERING US GOOD PROTECTION NOW, SOME OF THAT IMMUNITY WILL LIKELY WANE IN THE MONTHS AHEAD. CHRISTINE BIRAK, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Andrew: TOMORROW MARKS TWO YEARS TO THE DAY THAT COVID-1 9 PANDEMIC WAS DECLARED. THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT IT HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT STRETCH FOR MANY PEOPLE. BUT NOW A NEW SURVEY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CBC NEWS PROVIDES NEW INSIGHT INTO JUST HOW DAMAGING IT MAY HAVE BEEN TO CANADIAN ATTITUDES.THOMAS DAIGLE HAS THE FINDINGS OF A NEW SURVEY THAT PAINT A PICTURE OF HOW WE’VE CHANGED. >> Reporter: REMEMBER THIS — () 500 MILES >> Reporter: THE POT BANGING AND SINGING, THE NEIGHBOURHOOD GATHERINGS, THE FEELING EARLY ON IN THE PANDEMIC THAT WE’RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. >> IT’S BEEN A REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT AND TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER. >> Reporter: NOT SO ANYMORE. >> IF THERE HAS BEEN CHANGE IT’S BEEN CHANGE FOR THE WORSE. >> Reporter: AFTER TWO FULL YEARS OF UNCERTAINTY, NEW RESEARCH SHOWS CANADIANS AGREE THAT THE MOOD NOW IS DARKER AND PEOPLE FEEL MORE DIVIDED. >> THE ABILITY TO FEEL COMPASSION OR JUST A BIT OF KINDNESS FOR PEOPLE HAS REALLY BEEN SCRAPED AWAY .>> Reporter: THE SURVEY CARRIED OUT BY THE ANGUS REID INSTITUTE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CBC NEWS FINDS A STAGGERING 79% OF CANADIAN ADULTS SAY THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS BROUGHT OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE. AND 82% SAY THAT IT’S ALSO PULLED PEOPLE FURTHER APART. A LARGE MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS ALSO SAY THEY’RE THANKFUL TO HAVE BEEN HERE IN CANADA THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC. AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM MANY THAT THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN WORSE THAN IN SOME OTHER COUNTRIES, BUT IT DOESN’T HELP TO IMPROVE THE MOOD HERE NOW. JUST ASK THOSE WHO ENDURED THE PANDEMIC IN THE HARD HIT LONG-TERM CARE SECTOR. >> WE FEEL DEFEATED, WE FEEL THAT THE FUTURE IS STILL UNSTABLE. WE FEEL THAT THERE’S STILL A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. >> Reporter: CANADIANS ARE TIMIDLY STARTING TO COME BACK TOGETHER, LIKE AT THIS TORONTO BAR WHERE THEY HAVE SET UP A RESOCIALIZATION STATION FOR THOSE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO AGAIN MEET STRANGERS FACE-TO-FACE .>> GETTING BACK INTO HANGING OUT AGAIN IS ALMOST LIKE WE’RE GOING OUT OF OUR COMFORT ZONE. >> I Envision ONCE WE START TO RECONNECT THAT I THINK THAT A LOT OF THOSE BARRIERS THAT WE HAVE PUT UP WILL DISAPPEAR. >> Reporter: ANYTIME THAT THE RESTRICTIONS HAVE EASED AND THE WEATHER HAS IMPROVED, CANADIANS’ DEMEANOUR HAS WARMED AS WELL. THERE’S HOPE FOR THAT AGAIN. THE NATIONAL MOOD IT SEEMS CAN ONLY GET BETTER. THOMAS DAIGLE, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Andrew: WELL, CBC NEWS HAS CONFIRMED THE ROYAL CANADIAN NAVY HAS CHARGED INDEPENDENT M.P. KEVIN VUONG WITH A SERVICE OFFENCE. THEY Accuse VUONG, WHO IS A NAVAL RESERVIST, OF FAILING TO DISCLOSE THE FACT THAT HE’D BEEN ARRESTED IN 2019. AT THE TIME HE WAS FACING A SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGE WHICH WAS LATER DROPPED. LAST FALL VUONG RAN AS A LIBERAL CANDIDATE BUT THE PARTY BROKE TIES WITH HIM AFTER IT LEARNED ABOUT THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGE. >>> THE MEMBERS OF THUNDER BAY’S INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES SAY THEY HAVE BEEN FAILED AGAIN. A RECENTLY LEAKED REPORT CALLS FOR NEW INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE DEATHS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE THERE. THE POLICE FORCE HAS BEEN UNDER SCRUTINY FOR YEARS.JAMIE STRASHIN EXPLAINS. >> WHEN I Conclude ABOUT THESE Actions, THERE’S NAMES THAT ARE FLASHING ACROSS MY MIND. >> Reporter: FOR ANNA BETTY, AND THUNDER BAY’S INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY, MORE UNTHINKABLE PAIN AS ANOTHER DISTURBING CHAPTER OF ITS LONG AND TROUBLED RELATIONSHIP WITH POLICE EMERGES. >> THERE MIGHT BE SOME Category WHO FEEL THAT THEY WILL NEVER GET ANSWERS, THAT THEY WILL NOT GET JUSTICE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. >> Reporter: IN 2018, A PROVINCIAL REVIEW FOUND SYSTEMIC RACISM ON THE CITY’S POLICE FORCE. IT Also Announced FOR THE RE-INVESTIGATION OF THE SUDDEN DEATHS OF NINE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND NOW THE TEAM EXAMINING THOSE CASES SAYS THAT THE FORCE’S HANDLING OF 14 ADDITIONAL INDIGENOUS DEATHS SHOULD BE RE-INVESTIGATED. AND ITS INVESTIGATION OF 25 Bags OF MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS GIRLS AND WOMEN SHOULD ALSO BE REVIEWED. CURRENTLY THE THUNDER BAY POLICE ARE THE SUBJECT OF MULTIPLE INVESTIGATIONS AND LONG-TIME CRITICS SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE DISBANDED .>> WHAT FAMILY COULD POSSIBLY IN RESPECT OF AN INDIGENOUS DEATH TRUST THE THUNDER BAY POLICE SERVICE AT THIS POINT? NO ONE ACTING REASONABLY COULD SUGGEST THAT THE THUNDER BAY POLICE SERVICE IS TRUSTWORTHY. >> Reporter: THERE ARE INDICATIONS THAT MORE Subjects NEED TO BE RE-INVESTIGATED AND THERE ARE CALLS FOR THE PROVINCE TO IMMEDIATELY STEP IN, BUT THERE’S NO Indication THAT WILL HAPPEN. THUNDER BAY’S POLICE CHIEF SAYS THAT HER FORCE’S INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES HAVE IMPROVED AND THAT TRUST IS BEING REBUILT .>> WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF CULTURAL NEEDS AND SPIRITUAL NEEDS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW — IN TERMS OF THE INDIGENOUS POPULATION IN THUNDER BAY. THERE’S A Lot OF THINGS THAT HAVE Converted AND EVOLVED. >> Reporter: LITTLE COMFORT FOR THE FAMILIES WHO MAY NEVER KNOW HOW THEIR LOVED ONES DIED. >> SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR MANY YEARS, HAVE BEEN QUESTIONING WHAT HAPPENED, AND THEY’VE LOST FAITH. >> Reporter: JAMIE STRASHIN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO. >> Adrienne: WE Crave TO BRING YOU BACK TO LVIV, UKRAINE, WHERE Students ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN THE WAR EFFORT IN SOME UNEXPECTED WAYS. IS THIS LET? OR — >> ACTUALLY, NO. >> Adrienne: COMING UP, UKRAINIAN STUDENTS TAKE ON RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION. >> Andrew: PLUS, THE PRIME MINISTER IS IN EUROPE OFFERING CANADA’S SUPPORT TO UKRAINE. >> Justin Trudeau: WE STAND ALONGSIDE FRIENDS AND ALLIES IN EUROPE, AGAINST PUTIN’S ATTACK ON UKRAINE. >> Andrew: BUT NATO SAYS THAT CANADA STILL NEEDS TO STEP UP. ROSIE IS HERE WITH THE “AT ISSUE” PANEL.AND — >>> A CANADIAN IS SHATTERING A GLASS CEILING FOR WOME COMPETING IN THE MISS WORLD PAGEANT. >> I KNOW HOW IT FEELS >> Adrienne: WELCOME BACK TO LVIV, UKRAINE. NOT Surprisingly, CLASSES HERE ARE NOT IN SESSION, BUT SCHOOLS ARE STILL TEEMING WITH STUDENTS, ALL OF THEM REASSIGNED TO PROTECT UKRAINE. THINK OF IT AS GENERATION CROWDSOURCING, PREPARING FOR WAR. UKRAINIAN CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY STUDENTS SAW A COVETED CAMOUFLAGE NETTING MADE ELSEWHERE IN UKRAINE AND FIGURED IT OUT AND GOT TO WORK. AND STOP YOURSELF IF YOU THINK THAT YOU’RE LOOKING AT A CASUAL EFFORT. THEY’RE ALL THROWING EVERYTHING THEY HAVE AT SAVING UKRAINE AND ITS PEOPLE. SOURCING, DISTRIBUTING GOODS. Stores TURNED INTO SHELTERS FOR DISPLACED Houses. Students Gazing AFTER ALL OF THEM. IF YOU WEREN’T DOING THIS, WHAT WOULD BE GOING ON WITH YOUR HEAD? >> WELL, I WOULD BE GOING CRAZY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SIT AT HOME AND JUST READ NEWS, YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO .>> Adrienne: SOMETIMES THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO, THIS IS WAR AND THAT MAY MEAN EXTREME LEVELS. IS THIS LEGAL? >> ACTUALLY, NO. IT IS ILLEGAL BUT IN THESE CONDITIONS WITH UKRAINE RIGHT NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE FULL RIGHTS TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT’S WAR. BECAUSE IT’S AN INFORMATIONAL WAR. >> Adrienne: Students DIMA AND IVA ARE NOW PART OF A CYBER MILITIA HERE, VOLUNTEERS COUNTRY WIDE MESSING WITH RUSSIA. THEY Devised A SUPPOSEDLY SECURE MESSAGING APP AIMED AT RUSSIA. THE HOPE IS THAT RUSSIANS DOWNLOAD THE APP AND IT THEN STEALS THEIR CONTACTS AND SENDS OUT MESSAGES WRITTEN BY DIMA AND SEVA THAT APPEAR TO COME FROM FRIENDS. BUT IT Examines LIKE IT’S COMING FROM FRIENDS? >> YES. >> Adrienne: AND ALL OF THE MESSAGES ARE ANTI-WAR MESSAGES. LOOK WHAT RUSSIA DID TO THE HOSPITAL. >> CAN YOU IMAGINE GETTING THIS MESSAGE FROM YOUR FRIEND IN RUSSIA, OF COURSE YOU WOULD TRUST IT, IT’S A CLOSE FRIEND. >> Reporter: THEY SAY THAT IT’S FORCE FEEDING RUSSIANS THE TRUTH .>> THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THEM AGAINST WAR, RIGHT. AND IF THEY ARE AGAINST WAR, THEN SOME PERCENTAGE OF THEM WILL GO TO THE PROTESTS. >> Adrienne: ON ANOTHER FLOOR MORE TEAMS PUSHING THE TRUTH, A JOURNALISM CLASS THAT IS NO LONGER ACADEMIC. >> WE ARE Stunned WITH THE FACT HOW PROPAGANDA WORKS IN REAL LIFE, BECAUSE BEFORE WE ARE LEARNING ONLY THE SERIOUS SPEECH. AND I HAVE RELATIVES IN RUSSIA AND WHEN I PHONE THEM AND I SPEAK TO THEM AND THEY HEAR THAT AND THEY DON’T BELIEVE ME, IT’S LIKE A SHOCK. >> Adrienne: WHAT ARE YOU LEARNING ABOUT JOURNALISM THAT YOU DIDN’T KNOW BEFORE? >> IT’S A POWERFUL JOB THAT WE ARE DOING, IT IS Truly important. >> Adrienne: IT IS — THEY ARE IMPORTANT, NOT IN SCHOOL BUT IN THE LESSONS OF THEIR LIVES.AND, ANDREW, I CAN TELL THAT YOU ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THERE ARE GROUPS OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LEARNING HOW TO DO THINGS LIKE 3D PRINTING MISSIL STABILIZERS AND OTHER MILITARY EQUIPMENT. NOT WAITING FOR SUPPLIES TO COME IN FROM OUT OF COUNTRY BUT GETTING IT DONE THEMSELVES. >> Andrew: AN INCREDIBLY EFFORT. THANK YOU, ADRIENNE. AND CANADIANS HAVE BEEN ALSO TAKING UP 3D PRINTING TO HELP UKRAINIANS, THOUGH IN A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT WAY. ZELENSKY FIGURINES AND COOKING CLASSES — WE’LL SHOW YOU THE UNIQUE WAYS THAT CANADIANS ARE PITCHING IN TO HELP IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT, FIRST, ROSIE IS HERE WITH “AT ISSUE.” >> Rosemary: HEY, ANDREW, THE PRIME MINISTER HAS MET AS YOU KNOW WITH OTHER NATO LEADERS THIS WEEK AMIDST QUESTIONS WHETHER CANADA SHOULD BE INCREASING ITS MILITARY SPENDING.AND SOME BIG NAMES ENTER THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP RACE, CHANTAL, ANDREW, ALTHIA AND ELAMIN WILL BE HERE WITH ALL() >> Justin Trudeau: AS ALWAYS THE TRANSATLANTIC UNITY IS STRONG. WE STAND ALONGSIDE FRIENDS IN EUROPE, AGAINST PUTIN’S ATTACK IN UKRAINE AND IN SUPPORT OF UKRAINE’S PEOPLE. >> Rosemary: PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN POLAND, REITERATING CANADA’S COMMITMENT TO NATO AND EUROPEAN ALLIES IN THE FACE OF THE INVASION IN UKRAINE. BUT IN RECENT DAYS THE PRIME MINISTER HAD BEEN UNDER QUESTIONING, AND IS AWARE OF THE CHANGING CONTEXT IN THE WORLD AND WILL LOOK AT WHAT MORE CANADA CAN DO MILITARILY OR IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO UKRAINE. IT’S THURSDAY AND I’M HERE WITH “AT ISSUE”, CHANTEL HBERT, ANDREW COYNE AND ALTHIA RAJ AND MAKDA GHEBRESLASSIE. ELAMIN. I’LL START WITH YOU ON THIS, ANDREW. AS WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE ATTACK RAMP UP IN UKRAINE, SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES HAVE DECIDED TO INCREASE THEIR OWN MILITARY SPENDING, HAVE INCREASED WHAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO GIVE TO NATO AND THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS TO OUR GOVERNMENT TOO ABOUT WHETHER THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD BE HAD RIGHT NOW? >> WELL, 100%. LOOK, THE INVASION OF UKRAINE IS, AS HORRIBLE AS IT IS FOR UKRAINE, IS Also A SIGNAL THAT WE’RE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STRATEGIC ERA THAN WE HAVE KNOWN BEFORE. EVEN UNDER THE SOVIETS WE COUL AT LEAST ASSUME SOME KIND OF STABLE EQUILIBRIUM, THERE WAS SOME KIND OF PREDICTABILITY. WITH PUTIN, WE CAN’T ASSUME ANY OF THAT. SO ALL OF THE NATO ALLIES ARE NEEDING TO STEP UP. WHEN WE Seem, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE FORCES IN THE BALTIC STATES THEY ARE INSUFFICIENT TO REALLY STOP ANY KIND OF SERIOUS INVASION ATTEMPT. AND IN CANADA’S CASE, WE ARE AMONG THE LAGGARDS WITHIN NATO AND WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THAT IS LESS Pardonable NOW AND I Thoughts THAT THERE WILL BE LESS FORGIVENESS OF US FOR IT, WHE YOU SEE GERMANY SAYING THAT THEY’RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN 2% OF GDP, AND SWEDEN WHO IS NOT EVEN A MEMBER OF NATO, BUT IS NOW SAYING THEY ARE THINKING OF JOINING, SAYING THEY’LL SPEND MORE THAN 2 %. AND, OF COURSE, EVEN BEFORE THIS, PUTIN EPISODE, WE WERE LOOKING AT A VERY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT WITH THE UNITED Position AND DONALD TRUMP WHO WE CANNOT GUARANTEE WILL NOT COME BACK AS PRESIDENT, IS A MUCH LESS RELIABLE PARTNER AS WELL. BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT, NOT JUST THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPEND, BUT HOW WE SPEND IT. OUR MILITARY PROCUREMENT HAS BEEN A NATIONAL DISGRACE FOR DECADES. WE HAVE Airplanes FLYING THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE AIR FOR 30 Times THAT WE STILL HAVEN’T Superseded. WE PROCURE SHIPS THAT COME IN YEARS LATE AND FIVE OR SIX TIMES OVER BUDGET. AGAIN, THAT KIND OF THING WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY AND PLAY POLITICS WITH FOR REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT, ETC ., IN THE PAST, WE’RE “re going to be” NEEDING TO GET EVERY DOLLAR OUT OF OUR MILITARY SPENDING I THE FUTURE.AND THERE IS SIMPLY NO MORE ROOM FOR THAT KIND OF NONSENSE. >> Rosemary: CHANTAL. >>> OH, IF I HAD A DIME FOR EVERY TIME OF WHAT ANDREW SAID, AND I AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID OVER THE PAST 20 Times, I’D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO BUY MYSELF A CHOCOLATE BAR IN INFLATED TIMES. BUT I DON’T Guess THAT WE HAVE A CHOICE — SERIOUSLY. WE USE SOCIAL ACCEPTABILITY TO TALK ABOUT PIPELINES, BUT I Suppose THAT SOCIAL ACCEPTABILITY NOW HAS MOVED TO A PLACE WHERE THE LIBERALS WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE ON THE POLITICAL SIDE TO BE DOING SOME OF THIS. >> Rosemary: YEAH .>> AT A TIME WHEN THE NEW MINISTER OF NATIONAL DEFENCE IS IN PLACE, BUT THEY WILL FEEL SOME PAIN IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM TO DO THIS. >> Rosemary: YEAH, YEAH. >> SO IF THEY’RE GOING TO DO IT, I CAN’T Repute OF A TIME SUCH AS THIS WHERE SOCIAL ACCEPTABILITY HAS BEEN AS HIGH. >> Rosemary: THAT’S AN AWFULLY GOOD THING, ALTHIA, THERE’S A WINDOW FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO IT IF IT’S SO INCLINED. >> YEAH, IN THE SAME WAY THAT DURING THE FIRST WAVE OF COVI WE REALIZED THAT LONG-TERM CARE WAS A REALLY BIG ISSUE. AND NOW WE ARE REALIZING, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE ON THE MILITARY. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT ANDREW SAID. I Anticipate THAT WE EVEN HEARD DURING A TRIP WITH CHRYSTIA FREELAND, SHE SAID CLEARLY THAT DEFENCE SPENDING IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTRY WILL BE LOOKING AT VERY CAREFULLY AND SHE’LL BE THINKING OF THAT WHEN SHE IS CRAFTING HER BUDGET, WHENEVER THAT MAY COME.BUT I Agree, I Speculate THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING US TO NOT JUST BE A TAKER, BUT TO BE A REAL PARTNER, IF NOT A GIVER. AND SO MUCH OF I THINK THE CRITICISM THAT YOU CAN LAY ON CANADA WITH REGARDS TO HOW MUCH WE’VE PHYSICALLY PROVIDED NATO TO THE UKRAINIANS THROUGH NATO IS BECAUSE WE DON’T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT MUCH TO PROVIDE. I Imagine THAT IS A SHOCK. >> Rosemary: ELAMIN? >> I Predict THAT IT’S HARD TO UNDERSTATE JUST HOW MUCH WE LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW THAN A MONTH AGO, JUST IN TERMS OF OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE RULES-BASE ORDER AND ITS WILLINGNESS TO RESPOND.I THINK THAT WE HAD MANY GOVERNMENTS, MANY SUCCESSIVE GOVERNMENTS, THAT WERE COMFORTABLE SPENDING LESS THAN THE NATO TARGET, BECAUSE, You are familiar with, WE SORT OF HAD THE U.S. ON OUR SIDE. AND WE Also DIDN’T HAVE A THREAT AT THIS LEVEL. I Mull THAT NOW THAT THE FACT THAT WE INTRODUCED THIS SORT OF READINESS AND THE WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT THAT RUSSIA IS A THREAT AND THAT NATO MUST BE A BIT MORE AT THE READY, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POLITICAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO DEFEND THAT WORLD ORDER. BUT IT STILL DOESN’T UNDERSTAND OR ANSWER WHAT NATO IS WILLING TO DO IN ORDER TO STEP UP ITS DEFENCES, BUT AT THE MOMENT WE’RE WILLING TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION THAT IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST ABLE TO RESPOND SHOULD IT CHOOSE TO. >> Rosemary: OKAY, I’M GOING TO LEAVE THIS PART HERE AND WE’LL DO A LONGER PIECE IN A MOMENT, BECAUSE WHEN WE COME BACK WE’LL TALK ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP RACE.IT IS HEATING UP WITH SOME BIG NAMES ENT () >> WELCOME TO THIS LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN FOR THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY OF CANADA AND THE FUTURE OF CANADA. JOIN A GROUP OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE BUILT TO WIN. >> Rosemary: THERE’S SIX Months TO GO AND THE LEADERSHIP RACE IS RAMPING UP. FROM YOU SAW THE FORMER QUBEC PREMIER JEAN THAT CHAREST IS IN THE RACE. AND BRAMPTON MAYOR PATRICK BROWN IS SET TO LAUNCH HIS CAMPAIGN ON SUNDAY. AND PIERRE POILIEVRE AND LESLYN LEWIS IS IN THE RACE. AND, ALTHIA, LET’S START WITH YOU. IT’S CERTAINLY STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE, THE RACE. WHAT ARE YOU TAKING FROM WHO IS ENTERING IT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE CONVERSATION GOING FORWARD? >> I Imagine THAT IT’S GOING TO BE, ONE, A VERY INTERESTING RACE. YOU HAVE VERY STARK AND DIFFERENT CHOICES TO CONSERVATIVE MEMBERSHIPS AND YOU’RE ALSO SEEING SOME OF THE CONTESTANTS TAKE A MUCH MORE GENERALIST APPROACH, LIKE JEAN CHAREST TODAY ON THURSDAY.I MEAN, HE WAS NOT — I DON’T KNOW THAT THIS IS A GREAT STRATEGY, BUT HE’S NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO TAKE OUT A CONSERVATIVE PARTY MEMBERSHIP. HE SEEMS TO BE COURTING THE ELECTORATE BEFORE HE’S ACTUALLY WIN THESE THING. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT CHOICES ON OFFER. SO YOU’LL HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VISIONS OF WHERE THEY WANT TO SEE THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE HUGE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS THAT I THINK THAT Leans A DIFFERENT LENS ON THE CONTEST ABOUT HAVING THE MATURITY TO LEAD THE COUNTRY, WHO DO WANT TO BE AS PRIME MINISTER. AND YOU HAVE A TIRED BASICALLY LIBERAL GOVERNMENT AND TH CHANCES ARE OF THE NEXT CONSERVATIVE LEADER BECOMING THE PRIME MINISTER IS REALLY HIGH. SO THERE ARE PARTNERSHIPS BEING FORGED AND IT’S “re going to be” A VERY INTERESTING CONTEST TO WATCH. >> Rosemary: CHANTAL? >> IT’S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGNS, NOT BECAUSE IT’S COMPETITIVE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT’S COMPETITIVE ON SUBSTANCE. AND THAT FORCES EVERYONE TO RAISE THEIR GAME. TO WIN THIS ON PLAYING PARTISAN GAMES RATHER THAN ON SUBSTANCE WILL COME AT A COST, AND WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE COMPELLING, BESIDES THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPETING ARE ACTUALLY ADULT SIZE, THEY’RE INTERESTING IN THEIR OWN RIGHT, IS THE Reality THAT IN THEORY THE LIBERAL CYCLE IS CLOSER TO THE END THAN THE BEGINNING.SO THEY ARE REALLY FIGHTING FOR A CHANCE TO WIN THE BIG PRIZE, WHICH IS THE PRIME MINISTER’S OFFICE. IT SHOULD BE FASCINATING. >> Rosemary: ELAMIN? >> I Reflect THAT WATCHING THIS RACE AND WATCHING JEAN CHAREST’S ENTRY, I WAS Actually, LIKE, Looking forward to A PARTICULAR LANGUAGE. LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT SIDE OF THE SPECTRUM HE’S GOING TO FALL. BECAUSE WE SORT OF SEE TH POPULIST STRATEGY THAT POILIEVRE IS RUNNING AND I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT I AM NOT SURE THAT THE BASE OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IS GOING TO WANT A PERSON WHO WILL APOLOGISE FOR THE EXCESSES OF THE BASE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.BUT, At the same time, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SIGN UP NEW MEMBERS MAYBE SOME OF THOSE APOLOGIES ARE “re going to be” DUE. SO IT IS JUST A MATTER OF HOW YOU BALANCE THE APPROACH OF SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS CONSERVATIVE PARTY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FOR EVERYBODY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND NOW WE’LL TAKE THE APPROACH OF BEING FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THAT’S A VERY FINE NEEDLE TO THREAD. THAT’S A VERY FINE NEEDLE TO THREAD. >> Rosemary: ANDREW? >> IN ANY OF THESE LEADERSHIP RACES PEOPLE LIKE ME WILL SAY THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PARTY TO DEFINE ITSELF AND IT NEEDS A BIG DEBATE ABOUT IDEAS AND WHAT Policy IT WILL STAND FOR, AND THAT REMAINS TRUE. BUT THERE ARE SOME LEADERSHIP RACES WHERE LEADERSHIP IS PERHAPS COMES MORE TO THE FORE THAN RELATIVELY — RELATIVELY MINOR DIFFERENCES OVER POLICY. WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A MOST EXTRAORDINARY INTERNATIONAL CRISIS OF MY LIFETIME. WE ARE IN VERY PERILOUS TIMES, WHETHER WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT OR NOT, WE ARE IN WAR. NATO IS TIP-TOEING AND TRYING TO PRETEND THAT IT’S NOT AT WAR BUT IT IS EFFECTIVELY AT WAR WITH RUSSIA RIGHT NOW.SO WE’RE IN FOR EXTREMELY DELICATE AND PERILOUS WEEK AND MONTHS AND PROBABLY YEARS AHEAD. AND ON TOP OF THAT WE’RE INTO VERY DIFFERENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAN WE HAVE KNOWN FOR THE LAST 30 Years Basically. IN WHICH IT’S Departing TAKE A LOT OF JUDGMENT AND A LOT OF FORTITUDE, AND SOME REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS. SO I Suppose THAT IT’S VERY MUCH OR IT SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE’S MINDS AS THEY’RE VOTING HERE, WHO CAN THEY SEE AS PRIME MINISTER, WHO DO THEY THINK THAT CANADIANS WILL SEE AS PRIME MINISTER, AND WHO HAS THE CHARACTER AND THE JUDGMENT TO LEAD THE COUNTRY IN THESE EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TIMES THAT ARE AHEAD OF US. >> Rosemary: CHANTAL? >> EVEN IF YOU Reflect THAT YOU Promote THE Radicals TO STAY IN POWER, YOU SHOULD WISH THE CONSERVATIVES WELL IN THAT DEBATE, BECAUSE WHAT MAKES THE LIBERALS BETTER IS A STRONG OPPOSITION OF A GOVERNMENT IN WAITING. AND ON THAT BASIS, IT’S Certainly GREAT THAT THE OFFER IS INTERESTING, AND THAT IT SHOULD Head TO THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO WATCH.THEY CAN DISAGREE OR AGREE WITH IT, BUT AT LEAST THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HAS CHOICES. >> Rosemary: YEAH, YEAH, AND YOU WOULD Accept TOO THAT MEANS THAT EVERYBODY WILL RAISE THEIR GAME FOR THIS CAMPAIGN AS WELL. YEAH, YEAH. ANDREW? >> EXCEPT I Feel THAT IT’S ALSO “re going to be”, UNFORTUNATELY, IT’S “re going to be” A HUGE BIG MEMBERSHIP SALES BONANZA. AND WE KNOW FROM PAST EXPERIENCE THAT THOSE CAN LEAD TO UNFORTUNATE DIRECTIONS. POILIEVRE STARTS OUT WITH SUCH COMMANDING LEAD THAT FOR CHAREST OR ANYBODY ELSE TO HAVE A CHANC THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO SELL A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEMBERSHIPS AND THAT’S NEVER A PARTICULARLY EDIFYING SPECTACLE .>> Rosemary: ALTHIA? >> ON THE MEMBERSHIP FRONT WE SHOULD HOPE THAT ALL OF THE PARTIES BRING IN MORE PEOPLE INTO THE TENT SO THAT THE PARTIES BECOME LESS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FRINGES AND THE REALLY HARD-CORE ACTIVISTS AND MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ELECTORATE WHO ACTUALLY END UP VOTING FOR THEM AT EACH ELECTION. I Belief THAT IT’S A GOOD THING TO BRING IN MORE MEMBERS INTO THE FOLD. BUT I Missed TO RAISE THE POINT THAT EVEN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE CONTEST HAS OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED AND EVEN BEFORE MOST — MOST OF THE CONTESTANTS I THINK HAVE ANNOUNCED THEIR BIDS, THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY BASICALLY CHANGE POSITION ON A REALLY CENTRAL POINT — ONE THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES O THIS PROGRAMME IS BILL 21. AND NOW BASICALLY EVERYBODY RUNNING FOR THE CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP HAS A POSITION THAT IS Opposed TO BILL 21. LIKE, THAT’S A REALLY BIG CHANGE. AND SO THERE WILL BE I THINK OTHER — NOT JUST AN INTERESTING TWIST OF CHARACTER BUT POLIC SUBSTANCE, I Believe, IT MIGHT BE A VERY DIFFERENT CONSERVATIVE PARTY AT THE END OF THIS CONTEST .>> Rosemary: ELAMIN AND QUICKLY CHANTAL. ELAMIN? >> I HOPE THAT IT REMAINS WITH POLICY, RIGHT. AND I HOPE THAT IT REMAINS THAT THESE BATTLES ARE FOUGHT IN THE POLICY ARENA BECAUSE I THINK THAT POILIEVRE HAS DEFINED WHERE CONSERVATISM IS. HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE RUNNING ON THOSE AND HE APPEARS ON BEING ON TONE AND SORT OF BEING THE CULTURAL WARRIOR KIND OF CANDIDATE. IT COULD GET YOU A LOT OF ATTENTION BUT IT’S JUST A MATTER IS THAT HOW THE PARTY WANTS TO BE UNDERSTOOD? IF IT IS, YOU WON’T HAVE THE BATTLE IDEAS THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR AND YOU’LL HAVE BASICALLY A BATTLE THAT IS FOUGHT OVER WHETHER THIS SORT OF NEW POPULIST BENT IS HERE TO STAY AND SHOULD BE WELCOMED, OR SHOULD BE Serene DOWN IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CONSERVATISM IS. THAT SORT OF BECOMES THE WORRY IS HOW MUCH YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. >> Rosemary: YEAH, DO THEY ACTUALLY RAISE THE BAR OR NOT.CHANTAL, LAST POINT. >> YES, AND For sure, THIS Coming MAY WIN YOU THE LEADERSHIP AND MAY LOSE YOU THE ELECTION. I Envision THAT POILIEVRE IN PARTICULAR HAS TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I’M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW HE HANDLES THE FRONT-RUNNER STATUS. IT IS NOT EASY TO RUN A FRONT-RUNNER CAMPAIGN. ESPECIALLY IF YOU’RE THE AGGRESSIVE POLITICAL TYPE. AS FOR BILL 21, I HAVE ALWAYS Guessed THAT THE Situates OF THE MAIN PARTIES WILL HARDEN THE CLOSER WE GET TO THE SUPREME COURT, WHICH IS STILL A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BY THE WAY .>> Rosemary: YEAH, OKAY — I’VE GOTTA LEAVE IT THERE, EVERYBODY AND WE’LL TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN, SO I APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. AND WITH THAT I WILL NOW SEND THINGS BACK TO ANDREW IN TORONTO. >> Andrew: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROSIE. >>> Come through here, HELP FOR UKRAINE FROM INSIDE OF A BOWL OF SOUP. >> HMM, THAT’S GOOD. >> Andrew: COOKING, GARDENING, THE MANY WAYS CANADIANS ARE DONATING TO UKRAINE >> Andrew: WELCOME BACK. THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE HAS INSPIRED MANY CANADIANS TO GIVE, NOT ONLY MONEY, BUT Also THEIR CREATIVITY. SUSANA da SILVA SHOWS US HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR SKILLS AND HOBBIES TO TRY TO SEND HELP WHERE IT’S NEEDED. >> Reporter: THEY’RE BEING PACKED BY MACHINE AND BY HAND AND THEY STILL CAN’T KEEP UP. >> THE LAST YEAR WE SOLD $ 6,000 WORTH OF SUNFLOWER SEEDS IN THE MONTH OF MARCH AND ALREADY WE’RE AT $ 21,000 WITHIN THREE DAYS. >> Reporter: THIS Firm IS DONATING ALL OF THE MONEY FROM THE SALES THIS MONTH OF UKRAINE’S NATIONAL FLOWER TO THE RED CROSS .>> WE HAVE JUST SEEN WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE NEWS AND WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP. >> Reporter: SOME OF THE MANY CREATIVE WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE HELPING THE RELIEF EFFORT. >> LAST I CHECKED I Promoted ABOUT $2,600. >> Reporter: THIS CANADIAN CHEF LIVING IN THE U.S. OFFERED AN ONLINE CLASS IN RETURN FOR A DONATION TO A CHARITY. >> HMM, THAT’S GOOD. MY CHILDREN HAVE SOME UKRAINIAN, BUT IT’S Mainly Time SEEING WHAT’S UNFOLDING. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST FEEL SO HELPLESS. >> Reporter: A MODEL MAKER IN B.C. IS DONATING SALES OF MINIATURES OF UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY. >> THEY CAN Draw AND MAKE IT THEIR OWN. AND THEY CAN Devote TIME WITH IT AND HOBBY WITH IT. SO SOMETHING THAT IS A TANGIBLE REMINDER WHAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO. >> Reporter: OTHERS HAVE BEEN SENDING MONEY DIRECTLY TO UKRAINIAN ARTISTS AND CRAFTERS, NOW SELLING THINGS LIKE PRINTABLE ARTWORK, ITEMS THAT DON’T NEED SHIPPING .>> IT IS AWESOME PICTURES IN THE UKRAINE COLOUR. >> Reporter: LESLIE SAXTON WENT THROUGH ONLINE MARKETPLACE ETSY. >> I HAVE THEM FRAMED IN MY HOUSE AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT MY KIDS CAN ACTUALLY HOLD IN THEIR HANDS AND KNOW THEY CONTRIBUTED TO HELPING SOMEBODY. >> Reporter: IT’S BEEN OVERWHELMING FOR IRNA POZHAR, WHO IS IN KYIV HELPING THE WAR EFFORT AND SELLING HER DAUGHTER’S ARTWORK AND GIVING THE MONEY TO UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS.( Speaking Foreign Language ). >> Reporter: SHE SAYS SHE’S BEEN AMAZED BY NOT ONLY HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PURCHASED THE ART BUT BY THE WORDS OF SUPPORT THAT HAVE GIVEN HER STRENGTH. EMOTIONAL AND FINANCIAL HELP THAT IS MUCH NEEDED. SUSANNA DA SILVA, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER. >> Andrew: COMING UP, PUSHING THE BOUNDARIES OF BEAUTY PAGEANTS .>> AND WE’RE SEEING THAT AND I NEVER THOUGHT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. >> Andrew: HOW THE NEXT MISS WORLD SOMALIA IS MAKING HI >> Andrew: THIS IS KHADIJA OMAR, A REFUGEE BORN TO SOMALI PARENTS. SHE’S ON A MISSION TO REPRESENT BLACK MUSLIM GIRLS IN BEAUTY PAGEANTS, DISCOVERED WHILE STUDYING IN TORONTO. NEXT WEEK SHE’S SET TO REPRESENT SOMALIA ON THE BIG STAGE. IT’S OUR “MOMENT.” >> I HAD NEVER SEEN PUNJABI PAGEANT GIRLS. I Never THOUGHT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. SO WHEN I CAME TO CANADA, I FEEL IT WAS SO HARD, I DIDN’T SPEAK ENGLISH WHEN I CAME AND THE CULTURE SHOCK, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS WOULD BE. I WOULD Ever BE THE ONLY BLACK GIRL IN MY CLASS.() I Desired ART, AND WITH THAT I LEARNED MAKEUP. WITH MAKEUP I HAVE GOTTEN TO THE PAGEANTS. AND I DID ONE IN ONTARIO. THE DIRECTOR FROM SOMALIA CONTACTED ME AND SHE SAID THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING MISS SOMALIA, AND IT’S THE FIRST TIME THAT WE’RE LAUNCHING IT AND I WAS VERY SHOCKED BECAUSE I NEVER KNEW THAT SOMALIA HAD ITS OWN PAGEANT.AND I WANTED TO BE THE FIRST PUNJABI TO REPRESENT MY COUNTRY AND THAT MADE ME SO HAPPY AND TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN BE YOURSELF AND BE PART YOUR OWN IDENTITY AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO CHANGE YOURSELF TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE. I Are of the view that I WAS LIVING MY DREAM. >> Andrew: BORN IN A REFUGEE CAMP, MOVED TO CANADA WHEN SHE WAS 12. WHO KNOWS WHAT IS NEXT. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS MARCH 10 th. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. ().